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Overview
Patrick’s daughter Franny consistently damages tissue boxes, prompting discussions on structured parenting approaches to address her behavior effectively.
Notable demographic shift in NYC polling sites with younger, queer-appearing workers replacing elderly Latino volunteers, highlighting changing community dynamics.
Voting error occurred when Patrick submitted an incomplete ballot, indicating potential confusion in the voting process ahead of the mayoral race.
Strong support exists for progressive candidate Zoron, despite concerns over his qualifications, reflecting a desire for change in establishment politics.
Significant criticism directed at Eric Adams’ policies, particularly regarding his leniency towards Trump and ICE, underscoring an anti-establishment sentiment.
Ross shared a personal recovery story reflecting on past financial irresponsibility, including spending student loan funds on non-essential items like a Ray-Ban and an iPod.
Patrick’s own experiences of irresponsible spending with work-study funds raises discussions about financial education and accountability among youth.
Advocating for socialized medicine and universal healthcare, the conversation critiques the existing insurance system and its complexities in delivering care.
Emphasis placed on wealth redistribution and collective care philosophy as counter to billionaire influence, highlighting economic justice themes.
Podcast production notes included observations on dog Peggy’s reactions to hosts, indicating the emotional impact of the recording process.
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Discussion centered on Brad Lander’s arrest by ICE, raising concerns about his potential mayoral candidacy amid local political unrest.
Commentary on Trump’s presidency led to fears surrounding an emerging fascist state in the USA, with a nuanced debate contrasting it against communism.
Highlights from the Israel-Palestine conflict, criticizing US support for Israel amidst ongoing violence and family separations due to immigration policies.
Noteworthy mention of feminist themes in the cult film ‘Opus’, praised for its strong storytelling despite low critical ratings.
Ross and Patrick addressed personal impacts of perimenopause, blending humor with serious reflections on bodily changes.
The conversation reflected on 12-step recovery programs as models of successful community support, emphasizing functional anarchy.
Insights shared on community safety in predominantly Hispanic schools amidst current immigration policies and ICE tactics.
The podcast is considering the addition of yoga classes on Patreon to enhance subscriber engagement, with a current count of only five subscribers.
Advocacy for age limits in politics was discussed, suggesting no government officials over 50, except possibly Brad Lander at 53.
Patrick described his work as a sober companion, highlighting a recent experience transporting a client to rehab
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Overview
Ross recorded his first solo podcast episode (Episode 192) due to scheduling conflicts with Patrick, highlighting the challenges posed by their busy work lives.
Ross taught a Tuesday yoga class and conducted a kids’ session focused on mindfulness, reinforcing the importance of mental well-being in education.
Ross’s visit to the osteopath confirmed his spine condition is stable, showcasing the significance of regular medical care in maintaining health.
Franny’s upcoming 5th birthday on June 15th raises ethical dilemmas for Ross regarding convenience versus supporting larger corporations.
Ross identifies as ‘far left’, emphasizing that ongoing social issues like racism and classism are rooted in the actions of wealthy elites.
The Puerto Rican Day Parade was underwhelming for Ross, who desired more traditional cultural representation compared to previous years.
Ross reflects on gratitude for leaving the fashion industry for more fulfilling work, particularly amidst the social upheaval of the pandemic.
Financial goals discussed include the aim for both Ross and Patrick to shift from three jobs each to two, improving work-life balance.
Plans to expand Patreon content with virtual yoga classes are intended to enhance community engagement while diversifying offerings.
The podcast reflects on media narratives that often misrepresent community events, stressing the importance of critical media consumption.
In this episode of the podcast, hosts Patrick and Ross share exciting show announcements, including upcoming performances in New York City, Dallas, and Portland, while also marking Pride month. Ross discusses her recent success in completing an exam for her lactation specialist training, which covers all approaches to feeding infants and highlights the challenges of medical terminology and calculations involved. The pair reflect on the rigorous certification processes for lactation counselors and therapists, emphasizing the need for continued education and the implications of various certifications. Additionally, Patrick shares a personal story about intervening in a tense conflict outside his daughter’s school, prompting a discussion about biases and perceptions. The episode concludes with a reminder for listeners to support the show through Patreon for exclusive content and to attend their upcoming performances.
Notes
Show Announcements and Introduction (00:00 – 05:32)
Patrick announced upcoming performances: June 26th in NYC for Risk podcast, July 18th weekend in Dallas opening for Ian Finance, and August in Portland, Maine opening for Rose Bud Baker
Episode 191 introduction during Pride month
Patrick mentioned attending a therapist conference as a videographer where he ‘held space’ for them
Ross completed a lactation specialist exam, with Patrick expressing admiration for her accomplishments
Discussion of the ‘I-thou’ relationship concept from Martin Buber about seeing partners as complete people rather than tools
Ross’s Lactation Specialist Training (05:33 – 19:58)
Ross took an exam for her integrative lactation and feeding specialist program that considers all forms of feeding (breast, formula, combination)
Exam was open-note and taken in a co-working setting with a colleague
Discussion of mathematical conversions required for baby feeding calculations (ounces to pounds)
Ross and colleague struggled with the math portions, using an app called ‘Breastfeed 2’ to help with conversions
Medical terminology challenges for those without medical backgrounds
Discussion of contraindications for breastfeeding including HIV considerations in different contexts
Certification Reflections (19:59 – 25:36)
Patrick reflected on certification requirements he observed at the therapist conference
Ross discussed the extensive certification process for IBCLCs (International Board Certified Lactation Counselors)
Discussion about how some certifications require extensive education but don’t grant prescribing privileges
Ross’s interview interruption at approximately 00:24:01
Patrick mentioned being added to the Manhattan Birth Doula Directory
Patrick’s School Conflict Story (25:37 – 39:05)
Next day follow-up with Patrick alone while Ross is at yoga
Patrick described a conflict he witnessed outside his daughter’s school
Detailed account of a verbal altercation between a Black woman and a Latin American man
Patrick intervened to prevent physical conflict while his family proceeded to the school
The woman accused the man of using a racial slur; the man was upset about his phone being hit
Patrick reflected on his own biases in how he perceived and handled the situation
Patreon promotion at end of episode, encouraging listeners to subscribe for
1.99/month for full episodes or
5/month for bonus content
Action items
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Listeners are encouraged to attend Patrick’s show in New York City on June 26th for the Risk podcast (00:00)
Listeners are encouraged to attend Patrick’s show in Dallas, Texas on July 18th weekend at Addison Improv (00:00)
Listeners are encouraged to attend Patrick’s show in Portland, Maine in August at Empire Comedy Club (00:00)
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Commitment to Dog Ownership: Hosts reflect on their bond with dog Peggy; highlight long-term responsibilities and emotional impact. Discuss preparing for parenthood through experiences with Peggy; emphasize the emotional weight of pet mortality.
Parenting Challenges with Franny: Analyze behavioral issues, including emotional outbursts and evolving tantrums as she ages. Discuss strategies for managing parental stress, maintaining calm, and the importance of boundaries while validating children’s feelings.
Parenting Philosophies: Host’s focus on emotional safety, open communication, and non-punitive discipline methods. Share personal stories on conflict repair with children, addressing overstimulation, and learning to meet a child’s needs without fear-based tactics.
Milestones and Family Growth: Celebrate significant milestones including Peggy’s ‘gotcha-versary’ and Franny’s fifth birthday. Reflect on changes in family dynamics and express pride in Franny’s development and communication skills. Close with gratitude and invite listener feedback.
Action Item: Discuss concepts of pet mortality and family planning with Franny.
Notes
Dog Ownership Reflections and Family Dynamics (00:00 – 09:29)
Hosts reflect on their long-term commitment to their dog Peggy, discussing the responsibilities, lifestyle changes, and emotional bonds that come with being ‘dog people’.
They share anecdotes about Peggy’s behavior, her adjustment to their home, and how she has become an integral part of the family, even preparing them for parenthood.
Discussion includes the emotional impact of a pet’s limited lifespan and the contemplation of how to handle Peggy’s eventual passing.
Parenting Challenges and Child Development (09:29 – 18:05)
The hosts discuss recent behavioral challenges with their daughter Franny, particularly her emotional outbursts, power struggles, and the evolving nature of her tantrums as she grows older.
They analyze the difference between genuine emotional overwhelm in younger children and more performative or strategic tantrums as children mature.
The conversation covers the emotional toll on parents, strategies for maintaining calm, and the importance of setting boundaries while allowing children to express big feelings.
Parenting Philosophies and Repair (18:05 – 25:43)
The hosts reflect on their own upbringings and how they strive to parent differently, emphasizing emotional safety, open communication, and boundary-setting over punitive measures.
They share personal stories about discipline, emotional repair after conflict, and the cyclical nature of parent-child dynamics, including moments of affection and reconciliation after outbursts.
There is discussion about the challenges of overstimulation, the desire to avoid yelling, and the ongoing process of learning how to respond to their child’s needs without resorting to fear-based tactics.
Milestones, Growth, and Closing Thoughts (25:43 – 27:07)
The hosts mark significant milestones: Peggy’s six-year ‘gotcha-versary’ and Franny’s upcoming fifth birthday, reflecting on the passage of time and the changes in their family.
They express deep love and pride for their daughter, acknowledging her advanced communication skills and the complexities of raising a bright, emotionally expressive child.
The episode closes with gratitude, humor, and an invitation for listener feedback.
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On this episode:
Balance & Mental Health: Patrick emphasizes the benefits of cycling over driving in NYC for mental health. Highlights personal challenges of juggling multiple jobs and family commitments, stressing the importance of self-care.
Artistic Influence: Names Jesse Wells, Fiona Apple, and Edan as key inspirations for his work. Discusses how music and lyrics serve as a creative outlet, especially after the emotional strain of promoting his comedy special.
Community & Future Plans: Recaps recent comedy shows in Tennessee, Atlanta, and Rochester, expressing gratitude for support from family and the comedy community. Plans to develop a new story for Risk podcast and consider creating a comedy special based on personal experiences.
Notes
️ Podcast Introduction & Personal Updates (00:00 – 07:45)
Patrick opens the episode solo, sharing anecdotes about parenting, daily routines, and his work as a wellness and executive functioning coach.
Describes the benefits of cycling over driving in New York City for mental health and serenity.
Reflects on the challenges of balancing multiple jobs and family responsibilities, especially after recent travel and performances.
Artistic Inspiration & Creative Process (07:45 – 14:06)
Patrick discusses the importance of identifying personal artistic influences, naming Jesse Wells, Fiona Apple, and Edan as current top inspirations.
Explains how music and lyrics provide catharsis and creative fuel, especially when feeling overstimulated by podcasts and pop culture.
Mentions a recent emotional hangover from promoting his comedy special and the need to refill his creative well with new influences.
Shares frustration about being locked out of a Kindle book and pivots to reading detective noir, inspired by a podcast taping with Ronan Hirshberg and Sam Morrill.
Reflects on the value of consuming both high art and ‘trash’ literature for creative balance.
Comedy Shows & Future Projects (17:10 – 21:43)
Recaps recent comedy performances in Tennessee, Atlanta, and Rochester, including a guest set at the Comedy Catch and a recovery conference show.
Expresses gratitude for support from family and fellow comedians, highlighting the importance of community and mentorship.
Discusses plans to develop a new story for the Risk podcast and contemplates producing a new comedy special based on personal experiences.
Family Segment & Personal Reflections (21:43 – 32:42)
Patrick and Ross record a late-night segment, reflecting on their exhaustion from work and parenting.
Lighthearted discussion about reality TV shows (Below Deck, Housewives, Love Hotel) and the escapism they provide.
Share humorous anecdotes about travel fatigue, post-flight routines, and missing each other during busy periods.
Acknowledge the recent passing of Aunt Helen, expressing love for family and the importance of staying connected.
️ Pop Culture, Industry Gossip & Stand-Up Experiences (32:42 – 39:00)
Ross shares industry gossip about Pedro Pascal’s sexuality, discussing representation and public personas in Hollywood.
Patrick recounts a recent comedy show with Sean Weiss (former Mighty Ducks actor), noting his recovery journey and unique pre-show behaviors.
Conversation touches on the quirks of comedians, the challenges of performing in non-traditional venues, and the camaraderie among comics.
Hi it’s really Patrick writing up here on the top. The AI summary is below. Just wanted to pop in and say thanks for listening. We appreciate it! If you haven’t yet considered joining our patreon, here’s the page with all the info: https://patreon.com/wehiredasitter
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Lastly, I wanted to share the links to my special again. It’s on all the platforms and from what I understand I make a little more money if you buy it or rent it on Vimeo. I have zero clue if you’d then be able to watch it on a smart TV but maybe you use Vimeo anyway? I appreciate you checking it out, whatever service you try!!
Podcast episode 188 recorded solo by Patrick Holbert; Ross only briefly present. Originated on YouTube in 2017 as ‘Who Cares About Ross and Patrick.’ Plans to upload more full episodes and comedy sets to Patreon/iTunes.
Upcoming shows include Chattanooga, TN (secret show), Kingsport, TN (recovery convention), Atlanta, GA (Onward Theater). Patrick recording story for Risk podcast live show on June 26th in NYC; emphasizes comedy is accessible, despite ‘sober comedian’ label.
Recap of travel to Rochester to open for Ian Fidance included canceled shows and new material creation. Performance pay affected (
500 planned,
100 actual due to cancellations). Patrick faced allergies impacting performance, emphasizing need for family support during busy schedules and travel. Encouragement for Patreon support and feedback on content desired. Promoted documentary ‘Tom Portrait of a Comedian’ with screenings nationwide.
Notes
️ Podcast Updates & Format Changes (00:00 – 04:12)
Podcast episode 188 recorded with Patrick Holbert solo due to Ross’s unavailability; Ross briefly appears to say hello before leaving for errands.
Show originally started as ‘Who Cares About Ross and Patrick’ on YouTube in 2017, later became a podcast.
Episodes are available on YouTube, Patreon (full episodes), and iTunes (audio).
Patrick considers uploading more full episodes and comedy sets to Patreon and iTunes.
Upcoming Shows & Promotions (04:12 – 08:56)
Patrick is performing at several secret and recovery-focused comedy shows: Chattanooga, TN (secret show), Kingsport, TN (recovery convention), and Atlanta, GA (Onward Theater for Stand Up for Recovery).
Patrick is recording a story for the Risk podcast live show on June 26th at Caveat, NYC, and encourages listeners to buy tickets.
Patrick discusses the challenge of being labeled a ‘sober comedian’ and emphasizes his comedy is accessible to all audiences.
Travel & Performance Recap (08:56 – 13:01)
Patrick recaps his recent trip to Rochester to open for Ian Fidance, including travel delays, canceled shows, and working on new material.
Describes logistical challenges: canceled Thursday show due to flight delays, working remotely from diners and parking lots, and dealing with club decisions.
Notes on performance pay (
100/show,
500 planned, but Thursday canceled), and the impact on family time.
Health & Performance Challenges (13:01 – 15:52)
Patrick struggled with allergies (pollen, cats) during the Rochester trip, impacting his on-stage experience and energy.
Took two Claritin by mistake, worried about side effects but ultimately felt better.
Describes the physical toll of travel, poor sleep, and performing while feeling unwell.
Family, Support, and Parenting (17:18 – 20:26)
Patrick reflects on the importance of family support, especially from JoJo (Ross’s mother) and Papa, during his and Ross’s busy schedules.
Describes missing family due to travel, gratitude for help with childcare, and the challenges of balancing work, parenting, and marriage.
Shares a touching story about napping with Franny after returning from travel, and the ongoing struggle to spend quality time with Ross.
Patreon & Audience Engagement (22:02 – 23:25)
Patrick encourages listeners to support the Patreon to help sustain the podcast and family life.
Recently uploaded a full set from Zany’s Chicago to Patreon as an experiment; invites feedback from patrons.
Plans to continue uploading content (comedy sets, behind-the-scenes) and seeks input on what patrons want to see/hear.
Film Promotion & Social Media (23:25 – 24:56)
Promotes ‘Tom Portrait of a Comedian’ documentary, now screening in theaters nationwide; encourages listeners to attend, especially in Atlanta.
Reminds audience to follow both Patrick and Ross on social media for updates and content.
Action items
Patrick Holbert
Organize YouTube channel to make older content (e.g., ‘Who Cares About Ross and Patrick’) easier to find (01:24)
Promote upcoming Risk podcast live show (June 26th at Caveat, NYC) and encourage ticket sales (02:47)
Upload full podcast episodes to Patreon, YouTube, and iTunes as discussed (00:00)
Consider uploading audio of full comedy sets (e.g., Zany’s Chicago set, Rochester set) to Patreon and/or iTunes stream (22:02)
Continue updating Patreon with new content, including comedy sets and behind-the-scenes material (22:02)
Promote ‘Tom Portrait of a Comedian’ film screenings and encourage audience attendance, especially in cities where Patrick will be present (e.g., Atlanta) (23:25)
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COVID-19 Recovery & Family Health: Ross recovering from COVID-19; family quarantine ongoing. Franny & Patrick tested negative. Dog Peggy had stomach issue—vet visit led to unexpected X-ray, but charges were reduced after no serious issue found.
Veterinary Costs Impact: Recurring expenses for Peggy’s arthritis treatment; unexpected vet bills led to using a specialized credit card. Highlighted financial strain of pet ownership; vet provided discount due to situation.
Balancing Responsibilities: Ross unable to meet a doula client due to illness; arranged alternative assistance. Patrick increased parenting role, attending school events and spending time with Franny. Discussion on managing work and family commitments during quarantine.
Customer Service Advocacy: Patrick faced technical issues during a movie outing; escalated the situation to management resulting in compensation (movie passes). Emphasized challenges in advocating for consumer rights in public settings.
Podcast Content Development: Ross and Patrick plan for Patreon content including cooking videos and stand-up. Appreciation expressed for patrons; discussed editing processes using iMovie.
Episode Title Decision: ‘Cultural Casserole’ chosen as episode title, reflecting a metaphor for shared family experiences. Reminder established to note this title for future reference.
Notes
COVID-19 and Family Health Updates (00:00 – 13:16)
Ross is recovering from COVID-19, diagnosed four days ago, with symptoms appearing rapidly.
Family is quarantining together; Franny and Patrick have tested negative and remain symptom-free.
Dog (Peggy) developed a stomach issue; vet visit included shots, a checkup, and an unexpected X-ray due to a perceived mass, causing financial and emotional stress.
Vet ultimately reduced charges after no serious issue was found, but recommended sending X-ray to radiology for further review.
Veterinary Costs and Financial Planning (04:51 – 13:16)
Discussion of recurring veterinary expenses for Peggy’s arthritis shots and additional vaccinations.
Unexpected vet costs led to use of a specialized credit card for pet care, highlighting the financial burden of pet ownership.
Vet provided a discount due to the unexpected nature of the X-ray and lack of serious findings.
Parenting, Work, and Household Management (16:25 – 27:20)
Ross and Patrick discuss balancing parenting, work, and household responsibilities during illness and quarantine.
Ross unable to meet doula client due to COVID-19, arranges for another doula to assist, and manages multiple work-related calls without direct compensation.
Patrick takes on more parenting duties, including attending school events and spending quality time with Franny.
Movie Outings and Customer Service Issues (28:49 – 43:38)
Patrick recounts attending a school movie night and a commercial movie theater outing with Franny.
At the theater, technical issues with sound led to a frustrating experience, requiring Patrick to escalate the issue to management and corporate, eventually receiving movie passes as compensation.
Discussion of the high cost of movie outings and the challenges of advocating for customer rights in public settings.
Podcast Production and Patreon Content (19:59 – 21:31)
Ross and Patrick discuss producing content for their podcast and Patreon, including cooking videos and stand-up sets.
They express gratitude to their patrons and encourage listeners to join Patreon for full episodes and bonus content.
Ross shares the process of editing and producing videos, referencing the use of iMovie and creative influences.
Metaphors and Episode Naming (24:24 – 25:46)
Extended metaphor of ‘cultural casserole’ to describe personal and family traumas and experiences shared in social settings.
Decision to use ‘Cultural Casserole’ as an episode title, with a reminder to note it down for future reference.
Action items
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Remind Ross to use ‘Cultural Casserole’ as the episode title for the podcast (25:46)
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Academic Insights: Ross Erin reflects on struggles with homework & time management; positive shift in feminist theory classes. Currently studying lactation, adopting better study habits advised by her brother.
Media Vulnerability: Patrick feels exposed post-comedy special release
Notes
️ Introduction and Patreon Updates (00:00 – 10:37)
Patrick Holbert and Ross Erin Martineau recording with Peggy (dog) present
Discussion about composting at home and difficulties handling it
Patreon shout-outs to their three subscribers: Patrick’s sister Rebecca (benefactor level at
12/month), a loyal friend (5/month), and an unknown subscriber with a Hotmail account
Financial discussion: spending
40/month on podcast hosting and
20/month on AI transcription software
Currently receiving $18/month from Patreon subscribers
Academic Discussion and Personal Growth (10:38 – 21:27)
Conversation about Divas Live show that Aaron worked on, mentioning celebrities like Judith Light and Billy Porter
Ross discusses her academic struggles throughout school years, including difficulty with homework and time management
First positive academic experience came in feminist theory classes in college
Current experience studying lactation as a 42-year-old and learning better study habits
Brother gave important advice about changing study habits for personal growth
Discussion of different reading strategies for academic material
Career Updates and Personal Projects (21:27 – 31:44)
Aaron studying lactation/breastfeeding, balancing coursework while not earning much
Patrick mentioned having three jobs happening simultaneously that provide enough income
Health discussion about GERD symptoms and body sphincters
Aaron notes that despite not earning at peak, her current work situation feels sustainable
Discussion about finding sustainable ways to study and complete coursework
Planning to schedule regular podcast recordings with prepared topics in the future
Media Releases and Public Exposure (31:44 – 41:44)
Patrick dealing with feelings of vulnerability after releasing his comedy special
Documentary he co-created is screening in theaters
Discussion of social media and promotional clips created by the distribution company
Patrick received positive feedback from sister Rebecca and friends
Friend shared video of family watching the special together
Patrick feeling self-conscious about people watching his work
Conversation about the vulnerability of putting creative work into the public
Fame, Social Media, and Criticism (41:44 – 51:41)
Patrick discussing the challenges of being in the public eye
Experiencing mixed feelings: wanting recognition while also feeling too exposed
Discussion about fame being increasingly niche in today’s media landscape
Mention of hate comments on Joe List’s documentary that Patrick helped create
Patrick defended List in a Reddit thread against negative comments
Conversation about women in the public eye facing harsher criticism about appearance
Mention of how attractiveness privilege affects how criticism is received
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Podcast Context: Hosts Patrick Holbert & Ross Aaron Martineau recorded ‘We Hired a Sitter for This’ on Easter Sunday (4/20), with Patrick’s comedy special airing on April 22, 2023. Noted Ross’s past substance use, referencing cannabis and cocaine.
College Culture Insight: Ross reminisced about Vermont’s college weed culture, specifically UVM’s smoke-outs pre-legalization. Mentioned visiting glass shops in Burlington; a story about his roommate’s quest for the perfect ‘bubbler’, and Ross’s first 4/20 experience where he ‘blacked out’.
Personal Reflections: Discussed family separation; hosts have been childless since Wednesday, with updates from grandparents. Patrick expressed sadness over missing his daughter; highlights included her artwork and positive updates from grandparents. Transitioned to Patreon subscription details for exclusive content (
1.99/month for episodes,
5/month for extra content).
Notes
️ Podcast Introduction (00:00 – 03:17)
Podcast ‘We Hired a Sitter for This’ hosted by Patrick Holbert and Ross Aaron Martineau
Recording on Easter Sunday, April 20 (4/20)
Patrick mentions his comedy special releasing on April 22, 2023
Discussion about the date being both Easter and 4/20 (marijuana cultural holiday)
Ross reflects on his past marijuana use and describes it as ‘addict junior’ before his cocaine addiction
College Weed Culture (03:17 – 07:37)
Ross shares stories about Vermont college marijuana culture
Details about visiting glass shops in Burlington to buy smoking paraphernalia
Ross’s freshman roommate (now a high school principal) spending hours selecting the perfect ‘bubbler’
Discussion about how glass pipes and bongs are manufactured
Ross recalls his first 4/20 celebration in Vermont where he ‘blacked out’ from smoking
Mentions UVM (University of Vermont) having massive smoke-outs on campus even before legalization
Tattoos and Phish Discussion (07:37 – 13:22)
Ross discusses his tribal sun tattoo on his lower back
Reveals the tattoo was later associated with Godsmack album art
Friends wrote ‘God smack’ on his tattoo during a 4/20 celebration
Shows his tattoo to Patrick and explains how it was modified with vines and family initials
Discussion about the band Phish being honored at Ross’s college
Patrick notes Trey Anastasio (Phish frontman) is actually a New Yorker despite band’s Vermont origins
Patrick shares that he bought one Phish album but never became a devoted fan
Family Separation (13:22 – 21:38)
Hosts discuss being childless since Wednesday as their daughter is with grandparents during spring break
Ross had to work on his computer while family was visiting in-laws in Connecticut
Patrick went to Binghamton for comedy shows, staying in a cheap Airbnb that reminded him of the movie ‘Hereditary’
Their daughter drew a picture of them because she missed them
Patrick expresses feeling sad about being away from his daughter
They’re receiving pictures and updates from grandparents showing their daughter is having fun
Personal Time (21:38 – 24:49)
Discussion about how Patrick used her time alone at home
Patrick had set up some dates through apps but decided to cancel them